SPIRITS AND ALIENS CATEGORY The following are posts copied from Red Elk's webforum. The doc you are reading was created so people could read just Red Elk's comments without having to read or search through the comments of all the other users if they don't want to. This saves a lot of time. A few cases where other's comments are necessary to understand Red Elk's statements exist and so those other people's comments are reproduced here as well. The first line of each paragraph is the username of the person speaking, so most of the time it will say Red Elk. Occasional text in brackets by me, done only when necessary to establish context. -- Jeff ------------- Red Elk Posted: Jul 11 2003, 01:31 PM I n others in Med. r in agreement: "Hell" to break loose....shouldnt take place till 05 more like 05 n 1/2. 06 at the LATEST. WAR HERE. We LOSE. Other thingsas well. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 31 2003, 09:10 AM Dreams/ REALITY Dreams/Etc.; this may b off a bit but think not: As all here by now should know I tell all: u CAN "Change the Dream". I TELL TRUE. Why then do I have "problems"? The answere is so easy: Tho we CAN "Change the Dream", IF U DONT the God "Written" "script" go on. I LIKE THE ADVENTURE OF THAT UNKNOWN (to me) GODSCRIPT! To me to minipulate the dream to MY FULL ADVANTAGE leaves out the "CHRISTMAS 'PRESENT' "Saprise". i LIKE "Surprises" ! Its as simple as that. To me, leting the dream roll brings GROWTH. Oh, at times I "rework" it....but that only rarely. Aho? Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 9 2003, 07:00 PM I am familure with this style dream. Others have had it as well. Not I tho. Still....I too have exspearenced YRS in SECOUNDS...SPLIT Secoud(s). Mine a bit diff in that I STAY A N D GO....so "split"....knowing BOTH momments at the same time n able to DO in both...at the SAME time. Rather intrusting...n FUN. Ho R.E. ARROW Posted: Sep 9 2003, 10:00 PM Had a busy night dreaming again. And a strange day. Red Elk was riding along in a school bus with me and drawing a simple map (two symbols, one to represent me, one my bro) and alot of words in cap letters. Course I am new at reading in dreams so I am kicking self cuz I can't remember what he wrote, only the two symbols. Then on his way off the bus he stopped in the next seat and described a coworker of mine with another symbol and more words. Those I remember enough to know what was meant. I concider it good headway on my part- not as good as it should be but good. I am not saying he really was participating, its only inevitable since I am always thinking about this forum my dreams will start to show it, but if he was THANKS. The middle of the day went wierd. I am sick today and had to sleep alot, which I am thankful I can do so. But at one point I heard a noise that I couldn't tell was dream or real. So I tried to perk up alittle. Well thats when a huge heaviness was upon me and I was fighting to just keep the eyes open-- a sleep hitting me - I thought to myself- "now why am I as tired as ever right at the moment when I try to just listen for that noise? Any other time I am greatfull for fitfull rest, and here it is but exactly at the wrong moment". I stayed in that state- eyes like huge weights, body couldn't move, and rustling sounds just bearly perceptible in the kitchen. So with the biggest effort I could muster I wriggled awake. It was so difficult. Well then there was silence and nothing out of the ordinary. And I was back to my usuall state, not even close to falling asleep. And I wasn't sure if I was dreaming those noises at all. What was weird was I was not sleepy, just napping and praying, and then this 'paralysis' like I was under a lead blanket, out of nowhere. Now as I think about it there have been many many times I remember this happening, but always explained away as imagination. And always trouble falling asleep throughout life- which made it so tempting to let it take over. Red Elk Posted: Sep 10 2003, 06:45 AM Arrow; that "sleep" is THEM. Trying to work on u. Musta done something RITE! Certinly did in FIGHTING BACK from thier CONTROLLED SLEEP. KEEP THAT UP n U WIN! R.E. ARROW Posted: Sep 10 2003, 07:41 AM "them" who???! work -what- on me? great. Red Elk Posted: Sep 10 2003, 09:40 AM may seem "paranoid"...."THEM"; "Others". Ither r black ops or "others". "Work"; something to ADD to u. (Dont know what). I say this because over the last maby 9 yrs. others have told me simuler storys that u posted. Tell me....have u ever had missing time? Especily as a young child? Should keep this all now as a PM instead of openly. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 16 2003, 07:37 AM Arrow ; u miss-sprlled a word in the @^^ one. ( : As 4 me "drawing a SIMPLE map"....yup...was me allrite...thats all I know; "simple"! like in DAH. Who ever wrote of the buityfull blond gal who flew with u...WHERE CAN I MEET H E R ! Ok....had a dream just this morn.. could have "lucifyed" it but decided to follow it threw: Mt. Raineer exsloded. Many watching from my area over 100 mi. away. A nite scean. Burning rocks falling around us. People geting seperated. Breaking into closed stores to b protected from the rocks. Yakima river RUSHING n starting to STEAM. I was ok....tho seperated from my family dureing this. They made it home....n safe...while I stayed to observe/help. NO STONES/HARM CAME APON ME. KNEW I n Family would get 2gather safely again. Wasnt worryed it wouldnt b. done. Red Elk DreamCat Posted: Sep 17 2003, 03:59 AM I did some stream of consciousness writing today to disucss the nature of "the trap" with my inner higher self, the personification of my intuition. This method works quite well for me. I'd like to share a couple of lines that were written, and propose the meaning behind them" "lull gentle hum constant input forced output it is all calculated each individual personality is taken into account and fed it works because it is impossible" "the reason the trap works is that you are deep inside yourself" "the reason there's no way out is because you're deep inside yourself" "the reason that trap works is that they keep you deep inside yourself" "that's how each trap confroms perfectly to each person" "we have been reversed our logic should be a function of our ideas, our thoughts serve to organize our creativity" "the subconscious is the true mind" "perhaps that is the geat deception, Christ meant to free us of logic and not death or evil, without consequence all is possible" These lines summarize to say that we are al being kept in a trap. However, we are trapped within ourselves, that's why people wander for ages looking for the exit door. There is no way to run from or escape yourself, so no exit can be found outside anywhere but within. The way our lives are set up, "they" keep us in the trap we've made( or that "they" have made but we sustain) with things like money, food, comfort, security, etc. We're born into the bondage of these things immediately. "They" found the way to keep us trapped: by inverting our minds. Red Elk Posted: Sep 19 2003, 07:34 AM above one said "They INVENTED R MINDS". NOT SO.....INVENTED the CONTROLL (via Fears/Greed/Etc,) of Us...ie: Mind. That was/is the only flaw Ive seen .... the posting otherwise is VERY accurit. Ho. BUST UR INTRAPED Luciferic Made MIND-SET n b "SALVATED"....ie; FREE. Y R ALLMOST ALL FOLLOWING THIS DUMB SHEEP HERD! Thers a BETTER sheperd then this one herding r masses. GET FREE. Ho. As for the teliporting/moveing dream. LEARN KID! That was NO DREAM. This u r LIVEING IN is the dream. U WERE IN REALITY. Y were y there? TO SWITCH UR SCREWED-UP "THIS REALITY"BELEIFE to BRING IN THE REAL ONE....n DO. Ive told u n TOLD U....THIS ("reality") IS THE DREAM...now the ANGLE (Messenger) IS TRYING TO MAKE U REALIZE IT. QUIT thinking "HERE" n get thinking THERE ( no " " needed). DAMNIT Folks....WAKE UP! Red Elk DreamCat Posted: Sep 20 2003, 02:57 AM I don't mean any disrespect, but I claimed that "they" INVERTED our minds, not INVENTED them. What I meant to say is that they have taken our minds and turned them inside out; our true reality is seen with the subconscious mind, not the logical and analytical mind. The true nature of our trap lies in the inversion of our very consciousness, our subconscious mind is our true form, and is extremely powerful. My suggestion for breaking free of the trap, solving the puzzle, is to let your subconscious be your true mind: I believe that's the key. Red Elk Posted: Sep 29 2003, 11:35 AM NIC....u did well. Billy......LISTION. allso get/train another "Charly"....n learn to make/use Travis. THE OLD WAYS WILL GUIDE/SAVE U. Buff= ABUNDENCE AS U FOLLOW LIGHT...."Impossaables" NOT. TRUST IN THE "LIGHT"! ARROW; u saw the FUTURE ....time MAY b off tho. $$ comeing will tell. OTHERS SENDING ME SIMULER VISIONS/DREAMS....U.S.A. to Canada.....who r not of this forum. HANG TIGHT FOLKS n TRUST/LISTION. Ho. Red Elk Billy Two Dog Posted: Sep 29 2003, 12:25 PM AHO!...Brother Red Elk. Message received loud and clear. So many of us dream or have visions of coming events I have talked to natives and non-natives..the dreams/visions have alot in common. I started having the 'fire in the sky..smoke filling the land and people screaming and running in panic' for many years now. The difference now is it comes more often. I agree with you...HANGON FOLKS..its coming down the pike. Peace my brother to you and yours. Red Elk Posted: Nov 19 2003, 09:25 PM To ALL intrusted in dreams : CONSCIOUS DREAMING....by Robert Moss ($18.00) is THE book to have on dreaming. Ive read MANY. Even some out by N.A.s (or so they say). THIS ONE....O N E....is "IT"! GO FOR IT! Ho. Red Elk ARROW Posted: Oct 16 2003, 09:06 AM QUOTE T Birds r normaly 22' wing span. NORMOLY. Some MUCH BIGGER....2 the 40-44' wing span size. LOOK LIKE EAGLES. Seem to b diff. colors as there r diff. eagles (Bald/etc.). Most seen 2day r BROWN. In the old days they followed the Buff herds.....eating new borns n placentas. As whites killed the herds the birds had no abundence of food. Started dieing off. In Earth Flip past thier breeding area is now known as the YUKON. Within 2 yrs after I do CALL-BACK Cerimoni they will begine to returne there. you may post this if ud like. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Oct 7 2003, 06:47 PM The SLOPE HEADS r MU. were here with the Atlantians. Today some skulls with SLOPED HEADS have been found. "Science" says these r human. IN MOST CASES THEY R. The Indians sloped thier heads with a board when a baby. Forming the slop as they grew. SLOPE HEADS that r THE S.H.s were HUGE! 22' tall mostly. SOME OF THESE SKULLS HAVE BEEN FOUND. R Indians sloped thier heads to IMMULATE these "gods". Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 24 2003, 07:44 PM God first had MAN here....lucifer came mear MOUNTHS after. Lizz then came. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Sep 22 2003, 07:07 AM Only Humans ("Others" included as "human") have Souls. We r 3....Body (Tonel), Mind (SOUL), Spirit (Nagual). ALL OTHER "THINGS" "BACK" US in the Ecoligy of or life. ALL these things: b it Cloud/Rain DROP/ Rageing Lion/Deer/Rock/Mt./Etc. DO have Tonel AND SPIRT.....God AWARNESS. When a Cat/Dog/Etc. "passes" THERE IS A HEAVEN FOR IT/THEM. Tho a lion may eat ur human fried IT IS ONLY CARRYING OUT ITS ORDER: Eat/Have Sex/BE PART OF MANS ECOLIGY. Thus r sinless ("Sin":ie: Dissobedence to God). They NEED no Souls. THEY have no CHOICE to Disobay. I have PERSONALY visted some of THIER Heven. Even had to take some "stuck" animals there. These Heavens EXIST. They...as We...have a place that exists after death. Ho. Red Elk When people at the store or friends and such ask me how I am I reply, I am Alive. Red Elk Posted: Sep 24 2003, 07:34 PM funny.....the "I AM ALIVE"is PRECISLY my saiying too! In the HUMAN Heaven i HAVE seen animals. Never HUMANS in n animal heaven tho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 15 2003, 09:59 PM "P" Time(s) exist rite now.....MILLIONS. If u blink HERE in a P time u DONT....in anoither "u" blink LATER, etc.. U sneeze HERE, in n IDENTECLE ("P" Time) u dont. u marry here....another u dont, etc. etc.. how many P Times? AS MANY AS UR BORN to DEATH BREATH....for EVERY ONE....inCLUDEING those of Dementions/Times/ n in R galizy/Universe. UNCOUNTABLE P TIMES. Even r BEST COMPUTERS couldnt come CLOSE...or even a LITTLE close....to the #s of um. R "Pop" has a FANTASTIC mind! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 21 2003, 10:00 AM when u exspearence P Time u have a choice. Stay awhile n interact....or just observe. Ive done both. "Opened" eyes to another "me" in a P Time.....leting him know there was more to life then the "reality" HE was liveing in. "Blew him away". To have another HIM come up ...n EXACT "HIM", was a shocker. Spent about 15 min. with him....then faded back to MY P Time. U MAY b seeing a P time....more then likely was (being u were awke). We have NO CONTROLL over these events (in gen.). I n perhaps 3 others CAN deliberitly do so but others r not tought how. P Times r caused by the vibrationes caused by the shifting of inner Earths' plates.....opening "veils". Red Elk ARROW Posted: Aug 21 2003, 07:04 PM I wonder (uh-oh), I wonder if we are supposed to learn how to help ourselves in parrallel times, on and on until as we harmonize, a convergence manifests. Say, we goto 300 different p times, teach/learn and because of that, all times begin to resemble eachother (harmonize), vibrate so closely that that begin to converge. That would strengthen our overall tone. To a point where as each p is visited, the teaching /learning accelerates. I geuss that would negate all the benefits of having infinit p times. Whatever those are. Red Elk Posted: Sep 24 2003, 07:29 PM Arrow; n intrusting thought. I know when I interacted with my "other I" i DID help him change his narrow views. Knew dang well I was telling him truths he was totoly unaware of....knew it when I faded into THIS reality as I walked away. In a posting I told that this prop. has a P opening n an accountence exspearenced it. Seeing a "me" when it want TIS me. Hopefully I will "fall" into this as well. Why am I intrusted? TO TRADE COINS! MY n THIER pennys etc will b slightly different. TRADEING will give HIMme n MEme a good selling itim. Like those of Mells Hole. Ho. Red Elk Marqvardt Posted: Aug 29 2003, 06:28 PM Late at night i were listening to Coast to Coast am. And this guy were telling a story about 2 militairy genreals riding in a car and seeing 3 "boomerand shaped" obejcts with a blue/red beam in the front centered at a point in the sky creating a hologram of an angel with a burning sword! Might thses be future false raptures, and were the stereo typical angels holograms to trick the mass? Red Elk Posted: Aug 31 2003, 08:17 AM TOLD U there would b 2 ratures.....#1 HOLYGRAMED "Christ" n MIND CONTROLL AND MIND CONTROLLED EMOTIONS ("Christ is COMEING"!)....this Flameing Sword Angle is a good example of wich I speak. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 31 2003, 07:59 AM Yes....clowns CAN b deceiveing. Heyoka' n Inner Heyoka' r clowns. Humer helps heal. But dont underestamate us. We have a bib red clown nose....but its on a RATTLE SNAKE. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 19 2003, 07:09 AM "Marq"; here I am spending aLOT of $$ n ALOT of time TRYING to get people CONNECTED TO GOD n U come along MISS-DIRECTING. I would u understand the postings below urs n CONNECT to one that NEVER miss-leads....or start ur OWN FORUM. Ither u learn or go on as u r. Sounds "ruff" from this one? I CARE ABOUT U so HAVE to b ruff! Others here have worn ur moccs n now know better.. Give HIM a try. NO "MEDEATORS" Needed. Red Elk Marqvardt Posted: Sep 19 2003, 09:02 AM Im very sorry if im miss-directing. Was ment a fun thing to do. Nothing else. I'll just observe from now on then. Feel so embaressed, forgive me Red Elk Posted: Sep 20 2003, 12:33 AM MarQ; ok. understood. Just introduceing fire to those in the dry woods is not to smart. Ull learn tho. As above stated; we ALL make misstakes. The Oweegee Board....Automaticit Writeing, is "fun" too....n JUST AS DANGEROUS. So too is Self-Induced OBEs. Friend/ALL; we r IN a time of Transition. A TIME OF CHOICE. BIG choices. Now, more then ANY TIME IN EARTHS HISTORY we need to b VERY Carefull of the "playing feild". VERY CAREFULL! MANY will b "going down the tube" dureing this time. "Guides" seem to b growing to the 4front....n the STUPIDEST THING IVE SEEN DONE AS "GOOD" in YEARS! Im wathing a rip being made today. THE LINE IS DRAWN! Its the MASSES or the FEW. I Pray u here go to the FEW. It WILL b harder....but REWARDED THE GREATER in the end. No "rose garden" tho...u can BET on that. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 15 2003, 06:49 PM can tell u what "Rapter with Cath" means to me: DEATH. In ur case DEATH of todays "ways" n NEWNESS into SPIRITUL Growth. Ur memorys of past life is NOT UR MEMORYS but BLEED-OVER from ur INNER ANGEL (Nagual). BRINGING THOSE TO Y O U ( a NEW Soul) to compleat its "work". The SOUL of that past indian hasnt ... n WONT...come " back". THE NAGU&AL REINCARNATES....not "YOU". So, this You r headed onto n intrusting path. ALLWAYS Ck. IT GOOD agenst SELF (Bad) n Go ONLY 4 the GOOD...or u may go "Sorrcery". Good luck. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 9 2003, 07:05 PM wolftails/ALL ; WARNING on "ghost"wolf. NONE IN GOOD MED WILL HAVE A N Y T H I N G TO DO WITH HIM. I will say no more. Red Elk ps; hes now puting "DOC." in his "name" too. PRAY 4 HIM. R.E. RooK Posted: Aug 30 2003, 07:35 PM I have heard stories of Skinwalkers (cool name..bad people) N.A. medicine men able to change shape into beasts and take on other peoples likeness. But I am not N.A. so these stories might be just stories. smile.gif Oh and I forgot Gaditcha Men (spelling could be wrong tongue.gif ) Australian Aboriginal Shaman are able to take on the form of animals (usually crows I think blink.gif ) Red Elk Posted: Aug 30 2003, 11:43 PM oh NO.....now THEM? Yup...N.W. N.A. sorrerers DO do that. NOT FALSE "Hearing". Ho Red Elk ARROW Posted: Jul 6 2003, 03:48 PM I have seen rainbows, and each individially unique. I get the feeling I am missing what it really is every time. As if what I am seeing is a fraction of its truth. As awe inspiring and blissfull as they are... are they just a reflection of something in another dimension? Red Elk Posted: Jul 6 2003, 08:51 PM not to my knowlege Arrow. Just the Creators seald promis r Earth will not b coverd by water....ever again. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 18 2003, 05:43 AM "Blair [Witch Project]" totol fabracation. MANY movies.....TrueHeart.....Daceing With Wolfs....X Files.....etc. use N.A. "theams" that r based on facts. Mostly LIGHTLY base but there. In truth few other then the Full Bloods have nothing but "rumers" to go by. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 7 2003, 10:18 PM ok...my turn: Ive said ON AIR in IN THIS FORUM n EVERYWHERE that man needs NOT enter this "ahead". TOO DAMN FUW WHAT TO CHANGE IT (it CAN b done!) thus I give "plan b"....PREPAIR. It will take 85 to 87 % of EARTHS FULL POPULATION to stop what we r NOW going into. Dosnt look like that will happen....so....PREPAIR. N to BEST do so....CONNECT WITH THE CREATROR n BE Connected CONSTENTLY. Remember "Dad" had Josphes n Mary "grab the kid n run".....JUST IN TIME. He casn do the same with ANY who have that oneness. So...DO SO. Try as I mite MILLIONS ARNT LISTIONING. PREPAIR. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 13 2003, 05:24 PM 1st off remember we can chang...n stop this for the future ones. as said it dosnt seem likely - thus to get prepaired. what lays beyound is 30 to 40 yrs. of geting over the shopck of what has happend....then....GROWTH! Spiritly. BACK TO NATURE....back to ONENESS. this will go on 4 a long long time. then things start to slip back again....samo samo N BEYOUND. mankind gos "borg" to stop wars etc.. emotion self-controll by machine like means. then....well, earth leaves here....the day of judgement comes...n earth passes from this plain into that plain u call heaven. it n all on it r then there....4ever. ho r.e. Billy Two Dog Posted: May 31 2003, 05:47 PM Peace be with you all. I was thinking of what I might add to this forum and i decided on something that happened to me many years ago in the desert. I was out there for 2 days, sort of my own version of a vision quest. The night of the second day, around the campfire there appeared two wolves who i heard howling from a distance and as they got closer they came into the light. They looked at me and growled and i was about to have a coronary and was almost frozen and i knew better than to run but i was filled with fear. I didnt know what to do but one thing i knew was fear! I didnt want to spend my last days on Mother Earth as the last supper. Wolves like these I had never seen out there. Then, to my suprise, they stopped growling and a incredible peace came over me and i realized they didnt mean me any harm..in fact, they looked like the family pet. They walked close to me and both sat down ..one on each side of me. They told me not to fear because i seek the truth and it will be given to me IF i give to others as I have been given. They didnt talk verbally, just in my mind and inner being i heard them very clearly. Then, just as fast as they came, they walked out into the night again and i heard them no more. There was no sleep that night, i kept looking for them to come back and they never did. Just that once they appeared. Dont think ill ever forget the peace that came over me. I dont have the words to describe it, but I understood their words. I hope whoever reads this will hear their words too. aho..Two Dog Red Elk Posted: Jun 1 2003, 09:44 AM As any "in Med." Ive had Many "exspearences". Would like 2 share a simuler one to Billy Two Dog s'. One a Quest in the deep forest. I had taken water in a 2 litter pop bottle. It was empty. Lid off n craddled in arm, taped with2-3 fingers this makes n excellent n soothing "drum" sound. Handy on a quest. I was playing n signing n doing a circle dance with-in my space. About 2 in the afternoon. My circles center was a large Tamerac Tree. Proped agenst it my back-pac. Again, the tree was BIG in trunk girth. Suddenly from behind the tree/pack a HUGE n "rangy" BLACK WOLF emerged from behind both. ALL MUSSEL....not n ounce of fat on it. Not "mangy" but "rangy". STRONG. Built to TRAVEL....n that FAST. Dang near n unstopable force. AMBER Eyes that pierced my deepest inner me. It came about half way out n stood there STAREING at me. I am not one easily frightend but this animal made me come close to makeing it so. DANG it looked Dangerous! I reached for my belt knife n prepaired to battle. I knew it would b to death...for one or both...n no holds barred. At that the wolf slowly backed up n couldnt be seen for the tree trunk. I stood waiting. Where would it bust forth from? I knew this....WHEN it came GOD HELP US BOTH! ME in perticuler! It was gonna be a HELL of fight! I waited. N waited. nothing. I wasnt about to stand there 4ever so went to the edge of my circle n walked it to the backside of the tree, causihly.....ready for what was to be. Or So I Thought! I WAS NOT AT ALL READY FOR WHAT WAS!............NOTHING! Simple EMPTY Air! Zip. Zerro. Nodah. IT WAS A SPIRIT WOLF! It took me a full yr to find its meaning. That will remain privit. I will not share. Sence that time I have seen the wolf 3 or 4 more times. Understanding has helped. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: May 18 2003, 09:35 AM GOOD! 4 BOTH OF YOU! HO ! now think on this: When The Pale One? Teacher (Christ 2 u) said "I AM". What was he saying? What is OPPOSIT of "I"? YOU! What is opposit oy "AM"? Am NOT. Thus WHAT WAS HE SAYING? I AM YOU R NOT! Now break down the "I Am"; "I" is ONE. "AM" is EXISTENCE. Now break down YOU R NOT: If u ARE N O T ....U R A HOLIGRAM. At least to ther OTHER O N E s. N they a holigram to YOU. In short: There Is ONLY ONE....YOU! Thus break-down all that to bareness: YOU R ALL ALONE IN THE CREATORES' THOUGHTS....all others n "things"R A "STAGE-SET"....there for UR CONVENINCE. YOU r the MAKER of the CERCUMSTANCES. Illness, accidents, good, bad. etc R OF UR MAKEING. U n U ALONE "AM". Learn this n u can learn to "work the (ur) dream". CHANGE ALL TO UR OWN LIKEING. Hope u learn this n allso PRAY u learn to "DO" for OTHERS. Help IMOPROVE Them. This can swing both ways. DONT LET EGO (Wants/"needs") BE THE DIRRECTOR OF UR DREAM CHANGEING. Bestr to all, Ho Red Elk Guest Posted: May 19 2003, 09:25 PM It WOULD "flatten you". Would ANYONE! I find tho r Creator ONLY GIVES SO MUCH AT A TIME. There r RESTING TIMES that come between. NEVER make the misstake u "have it All". Ud b in for a shock. THOST THAT DO think this get "STUCK"....n pull into SORCORY. Seen it happen time after time. It has RUINED ALL OF THEM. Lost thier GOOD Spirituality...n GROWTH IN IT. EVERY ONE! To gain power they then need to turn to the "black". JUST WASNT TRUSTING THE CREATOR when the rest times came. EGO steped in. Thats all it takes. Ho Tnx 4 leting me know of these others meeting. Hope I was some part of thier starting to Awaken. Dosnt matter. They R.....THATS all that matters. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: May 20 2003, 06:49 PM Many have "outside help"....just CK. n make SURE its TOPSIDE Help. GUIDES r NOT FROM TOP-SIDE. ALLWAYS b carefull. ALLWAYS Ck.. If a "guide"....DANGER! Allways impresses with truth after truth....till they have u "hooked". Then u r given a subtel LIE n u swollow it. GUIDES r NOT of The Creator. GO DIRRECTLY to This One ONLY. Ask....Wait 4 "His" answere (by quiting ur mind) n EXSPECT n answere. THEN CK. IT TOO! Over the last 3 yrs. many have writen claiming "indian blood". NOT NEEDED TO CONNECT! In mans begining ALL races had The WAY. NOT of "Religion" but of PURITY (of heart). Few retained it openly. N.A.s have....Aberiginys have....n others. Still the WAY is in ALL. Just "hidden" to the gen. populence. INDIANS do NOT have "rights:" to this. IT WAS ALLs. Can be again. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 24 2003, 06:27 AM Im not sure what u r refering to....am I correct its about Planit "X"? If so....its out there, it WILL come n it WONT b a "happy" event. THINK this one will give us the Red Sky The Good Book tells of....n the "Deep Oronge Sky" r N.A. prophetsys tell of (the 2 r the same). I am now geting Dream reports .... each dreaming the same: People in great fear....sky is dust-like red. Meanwhile certin of us in Med. r prepairing to do a "work" when this takes place. Red Elk Trinity Posted: Jun 26 2003, 06:11 PM Red Elk or any other, Am wondering if anyone has stumbled upon the theory that when Hale-Bopp passed by, it deposited a black moon behind our current moon? Red Elk Posted: Jun 26 2003, 09:56 PM Im unaware of this "bhind moon" thing. Behind SUN....Yes. Red Elk Billy Two Dog Posted: Jun 27 2003, 02:23 AM Brother RE..I have had this dream 2 times in the last 6 months. The sky red and people running around not knowing what is happening. I seen great fear in all the people. Hear crying of children and much confusion all around. The sky was like fire. Peace be with us all. ho..Two Dog Red Elk Posted: Jun 27 2003, 06:55 AM B2D; just like the others have written About 7 now. TO ALL: KNOW THIS: I have been asked by the Cree Elders concerning this "WHAT WILL WE DO"? I prayed....was shown 9 men....all but one were N.A.s (Cree I think). The exception was an indian of some sort...S. Am. i THINK. This one worge a form of TOGA....just above knees/tye-strap to hold it shut. ALL GATGHERS ON THE CREE RESS.. ALL came AT THIS TIME. NON KNEW WHY. ALL were then GIVEN the "Y" from the Creator. The S. Am. (?) "held" the "Key" on DOING. EACH held a PART. NON WERE AWARE OF THIS TILL THIS CALLING TOGATHER. (Old, INBEDED Knowlege). I do NOT know the results but DO KNOW This: Whatever takes place there (at that time) WILL B BENAFICUL. MITE even STOP IT....or at LEAST; EXSPLANE it. What-ever, The "DOING" WILL HELP ALL MANKIND. In short: FEAR NOT our Creator knows how to handle it n we (Natives) have enough connection to b part of the cure. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 27 2003, 06:57 AM hay! JUST noticed the Buff. Skull Pic.. HOW did THAT happen? U, Ogden? "COOL"! Ho R.E. Red Elk Posted: Jun 8 2003, 12:15 PM The word "Church" means "BODY OF BELEIVERS". A beleif refereing to ONENESS WITH LOVECREATOR. N "He" IS LOVE! I find many contacting me with quistions.....often "neg." Bible. What the "Christian" leaders have tought thier people concerning this Good Book is, to me. appoling. Why they accept these weaknesses etc. equaly so. But each thier own path. This site is ment to b "self Seeking". IE allow u 2 share with each other n pick-out the good from the wrong....n continue Growing ever towards Creator Connection. I wish u all well. We can ALL Learn. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 19 2003, 12:54 PM Lil D ; u have known what MAN tells u of "it means"....not what The CREATOR says! This is y "Christanity" today realy stinks! U R FILLED WITH FALSE TEACHINGS Hon. Read between U n GOD this wonderfull Book becomes...n IS : REAL. In truth ur dislike of the Bible is A DISLIKE OF FALSE TEACHING. Ur qurrel is not of Gods' Word...but MAN Telling u WHAT (THEY say) Is His "Word". Now...learn wisdom: Learn PURITY. ie; One on One between YOU AND "POP". I can only advise. Ho Red Elk Half abo Posted: Jun 7 2003, 01:22 AM About two years ago I found a porcupine that had been killed by a car. I picked up the carcuss to collect the quils for doing some quil work on my mocasins and a few other things. After I had taken the quills and disposed of the carcuss I felt the presence of the porcupine for the next three weeks. I was wondering if I had done something wrong or if this is a natural occurance? Red Elk Posted: Jun 8 2003, 12:03 PM I agree with Zoa. In the Prky Case u may not have honord this one. Did u just take...n bury? Hope not. We, in takeing rd. kills, etc. honor the being by Thank You pray n Thank You 4 the portions used. In burel (dont allways do this....often puting the body out for the rest of those critters needed) we try to leave a faverit food offering in thanksgiveing....then wish thier trip well. Ending in thanks to the Creator for its life. Anyway thats the Inner Heyoka' way. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 19 2003, 12:47 PM 2 nites ago I had to put 1 of my 2 Mallamuts "down". Poor guy was in setch pain n wouldnt improve. Chatted with him...gave him a cooked pork-chop n as his mind was off his paing...."bang". WithIN 2 min. I saw him in Dog Awarness Heaven....2 who went b4 came to greet him...then severl others he had known here. 2gather they bouded happily into the "play feild". Never a pleasent thing to do to a friend but PRE-Knowing what happens helps. Yes...there IS a HEAVEN for EVERYTHING. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 20 2003, 09:16 PM I had to do n excercissum on a dog. Saw its passed master returne n get it. One HECK of a story on this. Ho (GUMDROPS AnyOne? ( : Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Mar 4 2004, 07:53 AM I, on the otherhand, dissagree....2ed picture, rite side, slightly above the walking bigfoot....look carefully...u will see A "Redish" one as well....big shoulders : a mature MALE. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Mar 5 2004, 08:43 PM Ive seen this film often n YES I F I R M L Y BELEIVE....SHE (not He) IS REAL. U will note on veryios films THE ONE HAS BREASTS. Males DONT. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Mar 5 2004, 08:46 PM I apoligize that Im miss-spelling etc MUCH more now. Got a new keyboard. LETTERS ON IT SMALLER N CLOSER 2GATHER. A screw-up on my part. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jan 18 2004, 11:26 PM Its quit poss. this [Maitreya] is the "dude". Certinly A "Ant-Christ". The other guys "all wet". "Call BACK"? HELL...NEVER LEFT. HQs HERE IN R EARTH. Occ "jount" out. Nah...CK SCRIPTURES AS UR "CK." ON THINGS PEOPLE SAY. If it counterdicts.... Its NOT KNOWELEGE FROM THE CREATOR. FALSE. Hear me: "In those (THESE) Times even the ELEAT will b deceived". Happen more n more nopw. Be AWARE...be CAREFULL. Ho./ Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Oct 13 2003, 06:51 AM We of N.A. see them [little white spheres of light] as Spirits. GOOD Spirits Ive seen them too. N BOTH Ways....good AND bad. MANY show up at TROT LAKE. Seen as good...people have thier kids go out n PLAY WITH THEM. They r BAD! I went to the deild n got rid of um. People took it they left because "I was of "wrng heart"....UNSpiritual. Sure WAS of wrong heart....to THEM (orbs). CK THESE. Ask "DAD" to rid them IF NOT OF HIM. DONT "want them"..... if not of the Creator n u WANT....theyll returne later. WILL STAY OTHERWISE. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 30 2003, 11:52 AM I did a "work" on a good friend yesterday. An Arabian stud called 'Classy'. 20 yrs old. A WONDERFULL 4 leged frend. A few days back he sliped n fell. Back thrown out. Mite have been a heart attack that caused it. Hes not at all well. DID get his spine fixed. Bone out of alinement. We talked. His "chest" hurts. Hes "tired". Wants to "go home"(pass over). Not well at all. He woke me early this monr., calling to my spirit. I dont think he'll b with us much longer. I took his spirit to Horse Heaven to show him what its like. He stood in wonder, looking/senceing. He knows now where he'll go when ready. Is attached strongly to his owner...n thats keeping him here. Personaly I hope he pulls throgh. To b so STRONG....n then seddenly so weak....has given him depression. Only time will tell now. He consiters me his brother, as I do him. Ho. Then later I went to the Little People to talk. By Spirit I went to thier city I had seen while in N.Mex.. We had quit a chat. MANY "typs"....Fairys to Gnomes n all in-between. GOOD PEOPLE. Im looking 4ward to going there physicly to do the same this new yr.. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 4 2003, 12:50 PM [in response to a story of a very young child who died and was comforted by "birdys" during an OBE] A wonderfull n VERY true tale. "Birdys" indeed. This young one knows well the TRUTH of Seeing With The HEART. "They Hear .... yet r Deaf.........See .... yet r Blind". N.T.. No....I did not have a "near death exsperence"....nore did this child. WE W E R E.....D E A D. In my case it was "samo samo" to me....be it death or in Spirit Travel, Ive been there numerous times. CALLED to go when in Spirit. EXSPEARENCED true death when that took place. I will EXSPEARENCE 3 more times. 4 totol. After #4 I will not be returneing. My Naugual will tho....2 more times. I (Soul) will not be back. I was just up there last wk.. Called, as usual. Shown things, As usual. RITE IN THE HEAVENS. As usual. I may seem to some as "callous" in saying "Samo Samo". Not. Just truthfull. It is a WODERFULL Place. I know in time I will stay....but that time is still far off (in Earth Yrs.). Ive a job to do here ... n Importent one....thus I have no DESIRE to remain there TILL T H I S WORK IS COMPLEATED. Say "Samo Samo" just 2 allow u 2 know the times above spent in Spirit was at the SAME HEVENLY REALM as WHEN actualy dead. I am LOOKING 4WARD to my NEXT true death....4 then I will be allowed to enter the councle that on #1 only my Nagual was privy of....while I (Soul) could only stand aside n watch from a distence. Yes, Indeed, This boy was THERE. Ho. To any n all who think that The Creatoe is "imagination"....DIE N EXSPEARENCE! (OT saying "commit Suicide!). u CAN "Die" to SELF...n exspearence....in Spirit Travel. NOT ON UR "COMMAND" tho. Thats SELF. U would go to aNOTHER...n COMPLEATLY FALSE "Heaven" if done in Self. LOOKS THE SAME. But n INTRAPMENT to those so STUPID n "DESIREING" (to forfill a PERSONEL "Want"). U MUST BE CALLED . Then CK. The CALLING. Only then will u go to the TRUE Heaven, in Spirit. I have to tell u all that there r some here (Forom) that r SELF ORINTATED. N in that, r being led astray. TOTOLY "off the mark" yet thinking they r "right on target". BEWARE YOU DONT BECOME AS THEY, PLEASE!!! Now: this boys story should be told...n to MANY. I would like to get hold of the C2C Staff n let them see or hear it. WITH THE PARENTS PERMISSION. 4 "Out of the MOUTHS of BABES" applys here. I seek permission. DO I HAVE IT? Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 21 2003, 02:36 PM Being in "Med." Ive learnd a # of ways of healing. Often take 1/2 of ones illness so that they can INSTENTLY feel better. THIS GIVES THEM MORE FAITH the work IS GOING ON. Then I have THIER Faith BACKING MINE. Once this "clicks in" the healing gets compleated. I then take them to the ROOTS of thier illness....POINTING OUT THIER "HOLDINGS" of anger/hurt/etc. HAS BUILT UP....causeing the infliction. ALLWAYS "Dissobedence to GodCreator". I tell them these must be exsposed n forgiven. TRUELY forgiven. OR THE ILLNESS WILL RETURNE...in perhaps ANOTHER FORM or "As WAS". I warn them of this. The Pale One often told healed ones; "Go...and SIN NO MORE". Sin= DISSOBEDENCE to GOD. I tell them THAT. The suggest they seek out The "4GIVER/HELPER"...The Pale One....via The GOOD BOOK. Asking Him to ENTER (Godly POSSETION) to help THEM forgive THEMSELVES !st...THEN THE ONE(s) THIER HURT/ANGER/MissDoings r towards. FORGIVEING in PURE LOVE. A LOVE ONLY HE CAN HELP/GIVE in/via YOU, TO GIVE. TOTOLE FORGIVENESS. AGAPE FORGIVENESS! WHEN ONE DOS ALL THIS n begines FOLLOWING The Pale Ones Way....THEY GROW in SPIRIT/HEALTH/BETTER QUILITY LIFE/LOVE. They then BECOME a "LIGHT" IN THE DARKNESS Man has placed themselves in. When all is exsplaind n healing complete (leaveing THEM to decide on doing the Further "Course") I then go to the ENDLESS PIT n toss in the 1/2 illness I had taken on. I WALK AWAY UNSICK. Ive often wonderd HOW MANY TURNED BACK TO "SIN" AFTER CHRIST HEALD THEM AND WARNED THEM! (Welcome "home" Arrow.....( : ). Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 21 2003, 10:26 PM The Questian was asked "How dos one SEE a demon/possesd person". Heres how I learnd...and use: #1 : 1ST IMPRESSION. #2: EYES. #3; BODY "LAUNGAGE". #4; SPEAKING. #5; Thier "FRUIT". then u CK via PRAYER on ALL. ASKING for HIS KNOWELGE on the person. EXSPECTING N ANSWERE! then u CK. AGENST SCRIPTURES ....T H A T "ANSWERE". U go from there. I USE NO "LIGHT"! Why? Scripturs SAYS "He (lucifer) COMES AS AN ANGLE OF L I G H T"! So NO LITE use. Hell, a MATCH is a lite. A tiny Bic Penlight is a lite. WHAT "LIGHT" IS BEING SEEN! SEE....actualy SEE....CHRIST! HIS ANGLES! "SCREW" the LITE New Age Consept! NOT AT ALL DEPENDABLE n therfor DANGEROUS! When u PRAY for CHRIST u will GET CHRIST. But know this: ONLY IF U "HAVE HIM" IN THE FIRST PLACE! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 22 2003, 07:44 AM Do people "know they r possesed": Some do. Depending on the DEGREE of Possestion. MOST DO NOT. To "deeply" possesed. SOME ACTUALY REQUEST A SATANIC POSSETION. (These r the ones called "Perficly Possesed"). Some seek help....some arnt aware they need help....some dont WANT help. The Christ CAME ACCROSS ALL and WON agenst ALL. WE CAN AS WELL. 4 we can...IN HIM...DO as Him. It dos NOT Garrentee THE CLEANSED ONES WILL NOT RETURNE TO THIER OLD WAYS that got them into this in the 1st place. Christ often said "Go, and SIN NO MORE". HOW MANY RETURNED TO SIN is not stated....but FREE WILL PREVALES. Ho. You can only do so much. They/We must ALL follow r own paths. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 23 2003, 09:26 PM Arrow: there r 2 now gone out on thier own to share/teach. We r linking 2gather. If u want to do the same I will link to u as well. Sorta like a COLLEGE has MANY RMs./Teachers. I K N O W ur LOVE....its real. NOT ALL HAVE IT. Few do actualy. Wanna teach? I'LL LINK. Know tho I Will CK as well. IF not backed by Scriptures the link gos off. You/ANY. It may be time. PRAY ABOUT THIS. Aho? Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 24 2003, 04:52 PM Arrow: I THINK U MITE HAVE SOMETING....but as yet needs OTHERS to verify. IF ITS OF R CREATOR IT CAN! CANT...if u dont TEACH HOW. Aho? Every School rm. has a teaher. one. U SUR R NOT BEING BAND! Hell...come IN. But Have UR rm.too. Like I said: I'LL Link. MANY THINGS TO B TOUGHT n Im not the ONLY TEACHER. GO 4 IT....TEACH. It will fail or take hold, BUT ITS SOMETING THAT WILL HELP IF IT "TAKES"! We (World) needs ALL THE HELP IT CAN GET Arrow. GO 4 IT! The 2 "out there" have done so for ")" I understand....or darn close to it. IE: "AFFORDABLE". THIS Forom site cost ALOT. NO NEED TO GO THAT ROUT. Im willing to open PM with u if u want. Just to advise IF U WANT/DESIRE. Let us know when ur "on". GO 4 IT!!! MERRY CHRISTS'DAY! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 24 2003, 05:00 PM Oops: The 2 out there have done for "O"., or near to it. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Sep 14 2003, 05:59 PM MANY people SAY they r someone eles speaking. Ive had to help aLOT of those who HEARD. So....WHOS SPEAKING? Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 15 2003, 06:26 PM Perhaps some of u have heard of James Gillyan from the A.B. show...n his Trout Lake Retreat? I went there. MANY were there...children included. MUCH UFO Activity. BALLS of LITE in the big feild. Parents sent thier children to go "play" with um. Adults did too. a "Wonderfull" Exspearence". They then asked ME to go out there. I did....ALL BALLS SCATTERD N LEFT! This shocked ALL...but me. IVE HAD THESE "WONDER BALL REPORTS" from others who, as a child, "Played" with um. AS THESE PEOPLE PRGRESSED IN AGE the "Balls" became DEMANDING...then in just a FEW yrs: CONTROLLING. These "friendly" little basterds r NOT OF GOD. By they way...a few min.s after they left THREE FULL-BLOWN ALIANS CAME...n they came to KILL ME. I was BLOWING THE LID on thier "plan" that would bring aNOTHER Group of kids into eventual CONTROLL. Needless to say....it didnt work. It was THEY who were "carted off", not me. i LIKE James but now know to much about his "doings" to give him ANY trust. HE IS CONNED. N I will stand by that. Still, i LIKE him. Ho. Red Elk ps: I HAVE seen GOOD SPIRIT "Balls" as well. R.E. AMistyDream Posted: Sep 17 2003, 05:44 PM There are alot of stories of "spirit balls" not just connected with aliens but also with hauntings. How do we know which are good and which are evil? Should we even attempt to distinguish? Red Elk Posted: Sep 19 2003, 07:12 AM ALL STATED. DISSCERMENT of HIGHEST CALABORE needed to diffinsheate. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Dec 5 2003, 09:04 PM Went 2 r Sacred Lay-Line spot (at the tipis)...cleard snow off a seting area...then honored the dirrections n invited my lands protectors' to "come smoke" (these r the 5 seen on my web-page. All 5 came n smoked. a GOOD time. R way of giveing thanks for thier typs' help. Id suggest U do this HONORING of ur ANGLES/TOTOMS. Dosnt need tobbacco 2 do this....just HEART! These r Gods WORKERS. Watching over u. Helping, Etc.. THEY R SO OFTEN OVERLOOKED. n REALY FEEL GOOD u KNOW THEY R THERE...HELPING. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 5 2003, 10:50 PM ok, my turn. There r REBELS amoungst all worlds. These r agenst thier own worlds "way" of controlling US n a few others. The rest r WANTING US AS THIERS......OR......WISH WED DISTROY OURSELVES. (Just "go away") in that mode; Agenst us. There is only ONE "Alian" race I am TOTOLY FOR: Those of MARS! I honostly feel WE r THEM or THEY r US. We r THAT CLOSE AS ONE. I DO N O T CONSITER THEM "ALIANS"....I consiter them US. "Sister" Planits as we have "Sister" Citys. ONE RELATION. N theres darn few of um left. If u care to learn what Alians r all about then save n order "The Agendas'. aLOT of yrs went into learning what this is all about...AND r Creators' reason for it. On my "LESSIONS" area on my Web-Site. Up to u. DO NOT BY WITHOUT PRAYING ABOUT IT! Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jul 8 2003, 07:45 AM Yes; GOD WINS IN THE END....and WE r part of that winning. ARMAGGEDEN is THE BATTLE that changes all. HERE...n WITH ALL OTHER SOUL-BEARERS. Said it b4" WE r the MOST IMPORTENT PEOPLE IN CREATION. WE r the CHEESE that will draw ALL SOUL-BEARERS to this planit...Earth is the MOUSE TRAP. Most r not aware OUR NAGUALS have vollenteerd to be our DRIVERS for THIS TIME. Today is even STRONGER in r newbornes. The "Indego" children. STAY CONNECTED TO GOD far longer then we, the older ones. Now, as for Mars. This is what Ive found: a large astroid came VERY CLOSE to hiting it. They prepaired in advance. Went in-ground. Many MIGRATED to Earth. Many meaning a FEW over-all. This to save thier race if the astroid hit. First they set up a way-station IN r moon. Then on to Earth. Setteling in 2 spots: N.Mex. (underground) n S.Am. above grd.. The astroid came...DIDNT hit BUT: was SO CLOSE it SUCKED AWAY MARS ATMOSPHERE. AIR! most suffacated. SOME LIVED THROUGH THIS there. DEEP with-in. Just a few tho. They Had/Have "ships". Raised/raiseing food to send to the Earth Ones....gos to the moon base then on to here. BOTH MARS N MOON BASE PEOPLE R DYEING OUT n MUST MIGRATE to HERE now. THEY R TRYING TO MAKE A DEAL WITH R MAJER GOV.s TO DO SO. Our GOV. (Canada/USA/ENGLAND) KNOW OF THEM! They r allso SUPSEPTABLE to allowing them to come...OPENLY...but r afraid of what "others" suddenly being Knowen will "screw them" (Leaders)....as this would show the WORLD r Gov.s has KNOWN ALL ALONG OF OTHERS n have been DECEIVEING US. They r CLAING it "would up-set the Christian Community". This to ALLOW THEM TO TURN DOWN THE MARTIONS "HOPE". Still, there IS hope...as SOME IN GOV. R FOR THE MIGARTION. Wouldnt be a flood...less then 10,000 left....MOST HERE ALLREADY. But TIRED of "hideing". Ho Red Elk manmoonstar Posted: Aug 15 2003, 09:53 PM Hi RE Just a quick question, What type of people have pupils that look like cats. Have met several people with these, and when i would say something to them they would turn away & then look back at me with regular type pupils. once a young girl about 19 turned away but when she turned back one eye was normal the other was still the same. and then she left really quick. Any Ideals? Red Elk Posted: Aug 18 2003, 05:36 AM oh oh....geting "personel" now. Ive one here...a friend...gal....n another "out there" that r as u say. The one here a "breed" of the race from "out there". N yes they CAN "switch" eyes AT WILL. Least the breed(s) can. BOTH breed n "other" r quit friendly ..... CATLIKE. Ive had little dealings with the "other". Just a few (5?) talks. The other has a tail n "fuzzyness" 2 her. Again: BOTH R "CATLIKE". Ment a male "other" as well. I was told from where they came but cant recall it off-hand. Y thier here beats me. As a "Cat" thier personalitys r quit simuler: "secluded"..... basicly get along with man...."secretive" (but not "SECRET"). Any that have cats understand what I mean.....same in personality/liveing. U can "own" a cat but never "OWN" it. Aho? Again; I dont know y theyre here. Know MANY DIFFERENT "BEINGS" R HERE is all. Sorry....best I can do. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 15 2003, 06:40 PM now THATS a new one on/to me. "Ant People"? R.E. Red Elk Posted: Sep 16 2003, 07:11 AM Thanks. Dont know of them. Mite b that Im thinking "People that LOOK like ants". COULD mean "People UNDER THIS SURFICE DIRT". Seen LOTS of THOSE. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Nov 3 2003, 06:58 AM Anyone here JOHN LEER on C2C 2nite? Im surprised....hes RITE ON. Least on most. Says Alians "invented" God n exspermenty on us concering out SOULS. THEY made God? Then Y R THEY LOOKING FOR R SOULS? Reason; they KNOW theres "something out there" that they DIDNT MAKE. ie; that tho THEY think thier "God".....WHERE DID THIS SOUL COME FROM!???? Told u folks ALIANS HAVE SOULS/GOD but over EONS of luciferic "work" THIER CONCEPT ..... MEMERYS .....HAVE BEEN "HIDEN". SMOTHERED! Frankly if they want to know if theres a SINGLE n REAL GOD.....let them examin Where T H E Y Came From. HOW did THEY "come into being". I TELL U TRUE; they r AFRAID to find the truth. AFRAID for THIER SOULES Sake. "IF we have a SOUL n HAVE DENIGHED IT....where will WE "End Up", typ thought. This FEAR allso makes them seek INMORTALITY. "Dont DIE....never WORRY about the 'after THIS life'....n thus find out we're WRONG, n Face 'JUDGMENT' ". THESE PEOPLE R SEEKING GOD to KILL GOD! They REEK In/Of.....FEAR! Mr. Leer allso said GRAYS r FIBERIOUS. PLANTS! Told u this allready. PLANTS with a given limited ability to THINK. DNAed this way by the TRUE (Soul Bearers) GRAYS. The SMALL GRAYS R CLONELIKE...ie; MADE in the image of thier makers. Used as "soldgers". A "Dime a Dozen". Just Mere PLANTS. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 6 2003, 03:23 AM 2nites C2C has Doc. Leer/Implant op. on it. The gal involved saw a "man" that said "we r now here". LOOKED LIKE A PRYING MANTISE she said. THIS is the GARGYL RACE. MOST look JUST LIKE THAT. Allso Mr. Nory speaks of going on a Time Travel exsperament. A Machine induced one. WHY? why a MACHINE to do this? IT CAN B DONE BY ANY....withOUT a machine. MIND THOUGHT ALONE! He allso said the man doing this said FUTURE TRAVEL CANT BE DONE. Wrong. Trouble is: WHAT FUTURE? or rather WICH Future? ALL FUTURES "ARE" allready. In THOUSENDS of Parralel Times. A caller suggested he gos to stop the Kennidy Killing....or Hitler. HAS been done! IN PARRALEL TIMES! "ALL BASES COVERED". Another asked "will this b in SPIRIT?or PHYICLY"? Mr. Nory didnt know. IT CAN BE DONE IN ITHER. Ive done so myself. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 14 2003, 05:10 PM u CAN know God without trhe Good Book BUT u WONT have the WRITTEN WORD to ck./match what u THINK is "God" withOUT it. It is many things...INCLUDEING UR SAFTY NET ! U can get into BIG TROUBLE not knowing it. Thats EXACTLY what has happened with MANY who use "guides" n via then "Godly knowelege". Look at the ZETTA gal n plant X as a recent example. There is another on THIS Forum not ck.ing n "seeing" falsly as well. If u think ur "better" then them u r in 4 a big surprise eventualy. Another thing in reading that book is IT FEEDS...F E E D S....ur INNER ANGEL (called the Nagual). These r just TWO reasons to read this word. Remember we 12 of the INNER HEYOKA' are tought by r elders....n they from thiers (etc.) all the way back to the originel "Inners"....WHO WERE TOUGHT BY THE PALE ONE; Jesus to u. We learned what He tought....N TEACHES....to DO what we do. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Jun 15 2003, 09:56 AM ARROW: THE FORMULA is there. "Seek n u WILL Find". Ho! a HINT: What was the FIRST THING The Pale One did to start His path to GodMan? Ogden; as I tought u when u were here: SCRIPTURES HAS T H E A N S W E R to A N Y Qustion u may have. "How to CK. on ANYTHING"; KNOW THE LIVEING WORD...n as something comes up that needs ck.ing....SEE IF IT CORRASPONDS W I T H The Word! I find it helpfull to go in ck.ing in NEGITIVE.....IE: PROVE my NEG. THOUGHT(s) r CORRECT! I find much CANT b proven I am "rite". This this "backward" ck.ing works for me. This is a HEYOKA' Way....for we r The BACKWARD People.Ho Red Elk Ogden Posted: Jun 15 2003, 06:45 PM With all due respect Grandfather, I have seen you check with Creator many times and you never once grabbed a Bible and said "Let's see now, what does the Bible have to say about that?" Every day for hundreds of years people have read the Bible without "getting it." What do you mean by know the living word? Is that exactly the same thing as just reading the Bible? Do all of the millions of people who are reading the Bible but not getting what you get out of it knowing the living word? Red Elk Posted: Jun 27 2003, 08:13 AM OGDEN: U r correct Friend.....u HAVE seen me NOT grabe Scriptures "to ck."....DONT NEED TO....Read n READ it enough TO CK BY ALLREADY KNOWING WHAT IT SAYS. I DID...n DO ck., From MEMORY. Hope ALL get to that point as well. N to You Sis (who gets NUTTEN from the Bible): u get nutten cause u have been DRILLED BY MAN onto what it "says". Hell, when can MAN give WISDOM of GOD? Ive told all READ IT AS A GROUP OF LOVE LETTERS FROM UR FATHER.....Read it as between HIM to YOU ALONE....n ASK HIM TO EXSPLAIN. "Screw" the MAN -TEACHING. It has TAINTED YOU. I sell a lession: Powere Reading/Power Prayer on my Web-Site....In the READING portion EACH WORD E X S A N D S. Much like n exsplodeing cannon shell. U r tought in Churches to See the SHELL in its UNEXSPOLDED FORM. "Of Gee, a SHELL". BLOW THAT SAME SHELL n the SHAPNEL M A K E S u think "Now THAT was a SHELL!" Hear me ALL: EACH WORD.....EACH.....can b BLOWN UP.......EACH WORD "HITING" YOU. FILLING u with the KNOWLEGE that that ONE SHELL was DEFFINITLY a LIVE Shell! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 27 2003, 08:35 PM Arrow: a Fair Quistion. Ho Know this: The Good Book HAS berern "tamperd with" by man over the centurys....BUT R CREATOR WILL N O T LET HIS GOLDEN THREAD OF TRUTH B DISTROYED. As u read u will find CONFUSEING writeings. for instence: "Thou Shalt Not KILL".....HOW can THAT be there when allk THROUGH the O.T. The Creator ORDERS "Killing".See...,a CONFUSSEING "Difference". THIS combind Knowing THAT VERSE and the O.T. SHOULD "say" to u "SOMETHINGS AMISS!" A WARNING SomeONE has TAMPERD WITH THE WORD! So u do a WORD STUDY. This is where a CONCORDENCE comes in handy. Get or BORROW One...n any pastor can teach u how to use it. Look up THAT VERSE that has THAT "KILL" in it....then TRACE IT Via Concordence To its ROOT WORD. U will find B4 the TAMPERING it said "Tho Shelt Not MURDER"....not KILL. a BIG difference. So, if CONFUSED then take it as a WARNING....."TAMPER". Aho? Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 28 2003, 05:28 AM Arrow/ALL: I see many "stuck in the mud". "Mudders" we call them out here. Kids who take thier rigs into muddy drives. I have YET to c a Mudder STAY STUCK. Thier rigs r 2 exspensive to not retreave it .....somehow. Look at that rig as YOU. R U going to set in ur rig n DIE cause "u cant get out". I am elderly. I am weak. n I am TIRED. a "Modle A" Ford. All I WANT to do is drive to the side of the mud puddle n yell "HIT THE GAS,,,,,WIGGLE THE WHEELS,,,,,,BACK UP IF NEEDED,,,,,ROCK IT". I do not have the energy nore time to go in n pull u out. Ive spent MY 41 yrs learning....n, as said, found it had been ALL In WRITEING all along. THE INSTRUCTIONS ON RETREAVEING UR STUCK RIG! Now....u can ither reach in ur glove-box n read the Manual....or set there n rot. I n U DONT HAVE 41 YRS TO LEARN n I'll b DARNED if Im gonna waste this Old "Modle A" body in rideing into the MUD to Tow U OUT. Why should I when the Manual is at ur grasp? READ THE BIBLE. FIND UR ANSWERES. APPLY THEM TO YOU, The "Rig"....n LEARN this Ol Geezer KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 28 2003, 06:04 PM words of wisdom (not mine) ; A man who Lays down gets up aLOT slower then a man who FALLS down. ALL will fail. Its part of GROWING. DONT lay there in the "poor MEs". Ho Another Word (mine) ALLWAYS POINT UR FINGER AT URSELF....N E V E R at another...even r "DaD". U will find ALLWAYS it is YOU who r the "problem". Often miss-HEARING....or miss-UNDERSTANDING. The "SELF" (defence) etc.. Point at YOU....then ASK POP "WHY" u r in the "mess" or "mood". Learn, then CLEAN UP! n then GET UP. The Life Path is allways still b4 u. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jun 29 2003, 10:14 AM What This One is after is haveing all "the Children" awaken to thier TRUE Hights. Only via ur connection ....FULL Connection....with R Creator will allow this. That means WORK. WORK at thinking "on the things of God" EVERY AWAKENING MOMMONT OF UR DAY. If "God is in ALL things" (n weve found that True) then even r Emotions r a "thing" to contaplate on....let alone everything u See Etc.. Yes, we get "off the track" ....Angry. etc.. CONTAPLATE ON WHY! Turn this "away from HIM" into VICTORY....4 HE was IN IT....n 4 a REASON. FIND OUT WHY! Then IMPROVE Urself. Otherwise these "wrong" things u may harbor will just lie domit. As cancer lies dormit....till To LATE. Be THANKFULL for the "Bad" in u....WORK ON WHY U HARBOR....n WORK ON CHANGEING IT. "Knowelge is Power" it is said. TRUE. But the GREATEST KNOWELGE you can apply to urself is the FINDING OUT of the WHYS in ur life. The "Holdings" of the inner HIDDEN Cancer(s). EXSPOSURE allows u to "Doctor" it....Then in time of CONSTENT "Doctoring" it LEAVES. HEALD! Gone. Ho Of course that hapens ONLY if u TRUELY WANT IT out of ur life. Ud b surprised at how many WANT thier "sicknesses"....n will die in this pride. Thier Path. I personaly want a better CLEANER path. Thats My Choice....MY Path. N beleive me....it "aint easy". Yes, I am a Med. Man....a calling. Few r called into this work. Probably none of u r.....BUT, KNOW THIS ; AS U FOLLOW THE PALE ONE n ur GOODHEART Desires....u will b so CLOSE to being a "Med. Man/Woman that ALL WILL THINK U R! Remember...it takes PRESERVERENCE to GROW. Dont b afraid to stumble. Dont b afraid to fall. ALL BABYS DO BOTH .... n become WALKING Adults. So, EXSPECT "Screw-Ups"...n GET UP N TRY AGAIN! U folks r LEARNING TO WALK ... in SPIRIT. a NEW "Walk" unfamilure with most. "ADVANCED ADULT, P.H.D." n Folks, please DONT look at me as some kind of "SuperMan" in "Holyness". I MAKE not Big misstakes...but damn HUGE Ones! Im a REAL "SCREW-UP". BIG Time. a DAH n a JERK. But i heed my own words....n Get Up n stagger ahead again. "Drunk" n staggerying....but STANDING. Allways moveing ahead. IF I have "wisdom" it is PRESERVERENCE to my TRUEHEART DESIRES. To PLEASE "DAD". I LOVE HIM SO MUCH I SIMPLE DONT W A N T TO QUIT GROWING! Hell, Ive come to Realize I AM A PRINCE....n HIS Kindom is MINE. This Planit is PART OF HIS/THAT KINDOM. We r ALL....EVERYONE...a PRINCE OR PRINCESS of this same GREAT KING. But we live mostly so in "self" we r PIMPS n SLUTS! ROLLING IN FILTH and ENJOYING It! Human "pigs". WE WERE NOT MENT FOR THAT. You, of this Forum r seeking a SHOWER n CLEAN CLOTHS. GOOD FOR YOU! U people make me Swell in "Pride". KEEP IT UP! KEEP "Wanting". KEEP GROWING. u r NOT pigs...u r SONS n DAUGHTERS Of The MOST HIGH. Our DAD! N as u learn, as u grow, TELL OTHERS. TEACH by EXAMPLE....TEACH as u FALL.....TEACH AS U BREATH, n HELP "CLEAN THE STREETS". Turnins Pimps n Sluts to RESPECTABLE, LOVEING....ADULTS! Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jul 1 2003, 05:36 AM Folks, I am trying to introduce u to FACTS. "ALIANS" R F A C T S! Soul-Bearing BROTHERS N SISTERS of Other Races OTHER THEN WE OF EARTH. R.E. Red Elk Posted: Jul 2 2003, 04:01 AM Hon, when one is working at Growing, mistakes r GOOD. U ELLIMINATE EACH MISSTAKE as "sosnt work"....thus leading u ever 4ward to ur SUCCESSFULL GOAL. Red Elk Ogden Posted: Jul 2 2003, 07:05 AM I've come to realize: * The very nature of this life is to mix the good people in with the bad so all of the people can define their own moral character. It makes us choose how we will react to various situations. This means that we have to learn to be strong and overcome adversity ourselves, but not necessarily BY ourselves. We are truly not alone from an emotional standpoint. There are lot's of entities wishing us well - sort of like fans at a sporting event, not the least of which is Dad Himself. * The example Christ gave us was to face our adversity with courage and hope, and the sure knowlege that it is worth it. * Anger can be a good thing.. an empowering thing if it is used in the right way. Apply the anger to the situation, not a particular person. * Part of the nature of this life is for us to wake up to the "other realities" that surround us and are intrinsically involved in this life. But to always use them to better THIS life instead of escaping it. * And so our adversity is our greatest beneficiary because it ultimately wakes us up and drives us toward Dad. And it makes us strong. And it makes us engage our higher realities and awareness. * Sometimes adversity is there because our higher selves has programmed it for a developmental reason. OTHER TIMES IT IS NOT. So we should always ask to have it removed (as Christ did). But if it isn't removed then we should meet the challenge with enthusiasm, and with confidence that there is a purpose. Red Elk Posted: Jul 2 2003, 12:50 PM Hear him ALL....Ogden has it RIGHT. In NO WAY could I have said it better. I can only add this ; BEND AS A GREEN REED. "FLOTE". Dont STRUGGLE as it only Tires you. ACCEPT, PRAY....n TRUST. otherwise u FIGHT THE TIDE n will DROWN. To ALL I say..... REST. Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Jul 3 2003, 04:32 AM I k n o w that WAIT WAIT WAIT feeling. took ME yrs....YRS.....to finily learn n float. Still occ. get a "twinge". Easy to get into. Hard to recognize till ur into it, then a battle to get out. Still, boils down to lack of trust....trust(ING) in HIS timeing. We here r allways so in a rush. SPIRIT Time n OUR Time r NOT The Same. He/They go on the fact TIME DOSNT EXIST. ALL is happining NOW...FUTURE N PAST....n NOW. A difficult fact to comprehend buy Growth WILL allow u to understand. Someday. 3 days....30 yrs., WAITING....is not even an Eye Mussel TWITH in spirit time. WE THINK WE R SO "BIG"..... yet r smaller then our ants in reality. Light Yrs r but CENTERMETERS, in reality. Ive told/tought this many yrs. R true SMALLNESS. 2 yrs ago one with me SAW this fact (as did I....a big jet....WAY UP....leaveing its "trail" of vaper. BEHIND IT (in the vaper) The SKY WAS U N Z I P P I N G ....n at the other end of this ziped open slit IT was ZIPING SHUT. WE SAW BEYOUND "Space"! Saw The VOID that all is with-IN. The "Beyond the DREAM". Sure blew this guys mind. Now he K N O W S! Ho Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 31 2003, 08:59 AM OGDEN: posted (i THOUGHT) n answere to ur "Ive seen u NOT grab a Bible to CK"....musta hit a wrong button as it appiers this post back to u didnt go on. To YOU n ALL: OGDEN IS RIGHT. The BIBLE IS NOW SO INGRAINED IN MY MIND i DO CK., from MEMORY. YEARS of reading it (STILL read it) has allowed this. i CHECK.....INSTENTLY, from MEMMORY. Aho? Another wrote "The Bibles' not for me". Too bad....n so SAD. I know of a gal (friend) who gos by "self". It wasnt n STILL ISNT "for HER" ither. "Intuition" is what she gos on. I gave her n "intuition test"....was 95 % right....leaveing 5 % DEAD WRONG! I can GAREENTEE that 5 % will KEEP U IN DANGER. Has her. Talked to her a few wks ago....shes in a mess. a REAL mess....was going by her "intuition" . She wont change (tho I hope THATS a "lie"). WILL U BE AS SHE? ur path kid. Have "fun". Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Sep 15 2003, 05:48 PM the above is very good. There r KNOWN INSTENCES where whole VILLAGES who have NEVER HEARD OF ANY BIBLE....when found KNEW The Word! NO OUTSIDE INFLUENCES AT ALL. How? THE PEOPLE WERE WANTING TO KNOW/SERVE a/The SAPREAM BEING. That desire was honored. In learning THEY SAW THE LOVE OF IT n decided to "go on" with "THIS One". So....its possable. But to u/others who CAN get The Good Book n KNOW HOW TO READ....why do it thier way? BE SAFE...its there 4 YOU who CAN Get. Ho. Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Dec 5 2003, 05:23 PM As a member of the "Rebles" I have found there R "people" WITHIN THIER "CULTURES" who R Good. At least FOR Us. What r u refereing to as a "Hi-er Being"? Soul Bearers? Spirits? LUCIFER is REAL Spirit. n purty hi up on abilitys! Red Elk Red Elk Posted: Aug 14 2003, 06:34 PM 4 MORE info to u: Occ. when hunting for gemstones here a TREE and.or a BUSH Diva will come out to chat with me. If a gem is within thier area they point rite to it. Red Elk walkingtree Posted: Aug 15 2003, 07:25 PM Other info RedElk gave me: all R REAL. Just a wk ago i walked on a Gnoms roof while in the woods. Occ. eleves visit IN r trailor house. when im given advance notice theyer comeing i by beer 4 um....place filled small cups on the floor. we set n chat. i have a "personel fairy" that protects my entry to the inner lands. A LIVEING "DOLL"...n a real sweetheart. they were here b4 man...to help build the garden n cultravate plants to earth. Pixis r a "pain"...nice but VERY tricky. Red Elk Red Elk |